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Jeb Corliss at Mount Jianglang
Photoshopped image: Jeb Corliss superimposed in the crack at Mount Jianglang

Jeb Corliss on The Flying Dagger

On September 28, 37-year-old Jeb Corliss will attempt what he says is his most challenging jump yet. He will drop out of a helicopter and pilot his wingsuit through a crack in a roughly 900-foot-long, 870-foot high rock. We called him up to find out more, and discovered he's using a revolutionary new technology to train.

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Jeb Corliss at Mount Jianglang

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On September 28, aerial stuntman Jeb Corliss plans to jump out a helicopter and pilot his wingsuit through a 30-foot-wide fissure in a nearly 900-foot-tall fin of rock, called Mount , in China. The stunt, which Corliss is dubbing 鈥淭he Flying Dagger,鈥 requires that he fly with more precision for a longer period of time than he ever has before. And he says pulling off such sustained control isn鈥檛 even the scariest part of what he鈥檚 attempting.

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Jeb Corliss at Mount Jianglang

Jeb Corliss at Mount Jianglang Jeb Corliss standing in the crack at Mount Jianglang

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Mount Jianglang Mount Jianglang

It’s been a rough year for BASE jumpers. So far in 2013 there have been in the sport, the deadliest year on record, according to ., arguably the biggest name in the game, has had his share of close calls. Last year he crashed into South Africa鈥檚 Table Mountain while flying at more than 100 miles per hour. He from near kidney failure and a torn up left leg, then jumped off the same mountain where he got hurt. He’s also helped organize the world鈥檚 first proximity wingsuit race in China, had surgery to fix a torn ACL, and jumped all over Europe. Now he’s organized his most challenging stunt to date. We called him up to hear more about how he plans to take a stab at the 鈥淒agger.鈥

OUTSIDE: Where did you get the idea for 鈥淭he Flying Dagger鈥?
CORLISS: Frank Yang of contacted me in late April or early May and wanted to know if I thought it was possible to fly through this crack in China. Normally, when non-jumpers come to me with something like that, I鈥檓 really skeptical. They don鈥檛 really understand what we do.

They flew me out and took me to three locations that were all very cool, very remote, and very unique. I thought, 鈥淥K, these are cool. I could do any one of these.鈥 Then the final spot they took me to was this crack. When I got there I was like, 鈥淲ow, I鈥檝e never seen anything like this.鈥 I didn鈥檛 understand how nature could create something like it, with almost perfect 90-degree lines. I walked into the bottom and put my arms out. I had four feet on either side of me.

It鈥檚 just not that it鈥檚 narrow; it鈥檚 also really long. It鈥檚 three football fields long. It鈥檚 about 15 feet at the bottom and 60 feet at the top. So you鈥檙e looking at two people holding hands at the bottom and maybe a bus at the top. It was a very shocking thing to be standing in. My friend Iiro said, 鈥淚s this possible?鈥 I said, 鈥淵eah, it is possible. This can totally be done.鈥

What will be different about this flight?
A lot of us have done a lot of very precise flights, like I鈥檝e hit the string on balloons, and gone by the arms of , and . But in those jumps I was only super precise for a split second鈥攖wo seconds max. This time, I鈥檓 going to have to be super precise for somewhere between 10 to 30 seconds. The length of time makes it different.

This is also a very committed jump, because once you鈥檙e in you just can鈥檛 come out of it. It鈥檚 so narrow that you can鈥檛 deploy inside of it. You have to come out of the crack before you pull your parachute. It鈥檚 a very committed flight. Once you enter, you have to complete it. The deeper you go the narrower it gets.

Do you know how you are going to get into, and out of, the jump?

Well, here is the thing. I actually just went to Hungary where we are using to test our ability to render this mountain or canyon in space. So, I am able to jump out of an airplane and three times during each jump. This thing is rendered three dimensionally in front of me. It was interesting training, and I would say I impacted about 50 percent of the time.

Wait鈥攜ou crashed during half of your training runs?
Yeah, but it鈥檚 . You鈥檙e pushing a lot harder in there because it鈥檚 a unique way of training. It gave me the ability to get a real sense of what I鈥檓 doing before I get anywhere near real rock. I think it is going to be the future of how we train for these things.

My biggest concern isn鈥檛 the flight through the crack. I鈥檓 pretty confident I can do it. I鈥檓 more concerned with what happens to me when I come out the other end. It鈥檚 about 870 feet tall and 900 feet long, but once you come out of it you can鈥檛 get any more altitude. So when I fly out of this thing, I could be deploying my parachute at pretty low altitude. The problem of pulling at a pretty low altitude is that I鈥檓 over a jungle and there鈥檚 a fairly small landing area. You want to avoid landing in trees whenever possible, but if you have to land in trees, you have to land in trees. So it could be very exciting.

To put it in perspective, the cave I flew through in 2011 was 400 feet tall, 100 feet wide, and 200 feet deep. So the measurement was quite large compared to 鈥淭he Flying Dagger.鈥 I had a big long flight after the cave where I had a 2.5 glide ratio and 45 seconds to deploy the parachute. This stunt is so much narrower, from 100 feet wide to 16 feet wide, and so much longer, from 200 feet to 900 feet long. The fact that I have to fly through a narrow window for such a long period of time, there really hasn鈥檛 been another flight like it.

Do you have a team of people that help you prepare? How do you figure out the physics of it?
Yeah, I have a whole team of people that help me with everything.聽 When it comes to the wingsuit flying and the physics? That comes with my many years of experience. There aren鈥檛 a bunch of people that can help me with that. When it comes to training in a safe way? Yeah, I have a list of people who come up with ideas and make this stuff as safe as it can be done.

Describe the augmented reality training a bit more.
Augmented reality is the opposite of virtual reality. is actual reality with objects three-dimensionally rendered in real space. You don鈥檛 have goggles. You just have glass that you can see completely through and the images of 3D renderings are projected on that glass. It tricks your mind into believing they are there.

So you were actually jumping out of a plane and had goggles on? And you had the image of the canyon below you?
Yes. I can鈥檛 tell you exactly how I saw it, but yes. The best way to say it鈥 was when I jumped out of the airplane at 12,000 feet, 1,000 feet below me was the canyon. As far as my brain was concerned, that canyon existed. As far as my eyes were concerned, I was flying through a mountain. I was flying not just through any mountain. I was flying through the exact mountain I鈥檓 going to jump through in China. They went and did a computer rendering of this exact mountain. It was the exact size. The angles were exact. Everything was exact.

So what caused all the simulated crashes?

Well, some of it was due to glitches in the augmented reality. Every once in a while I鈥檇 be flying near the mountain and all of a sudden the mountain would move 30 feet. There wasn鈥檛 much I could do with that. The system and is still in beta. Luckily, in the real word, the mountain is not going to move. Aside from that, it was just me choosing the wrong angle. I鈥檓 coming in and I get a little too far back and all of a sudden I鈥檓 too shallow and I can鈥檛 make it all of the way through. I was like, 鈥淗uh, that鈥檚 interesting.鈥 Obviously I have to come at this thing high enough and be at the right angle to make sure I come out the other end. If I鈥檓 too low, then I flatten out and don鈥檛 have the glide anymore and would just impact halfway through. That was interesting. I was like, 鈥淚 have to make sure I don鈥檛 make that mistake.鈥

With wingsuting and proximity flying, what鈥檚 the direction you want to go in? More stunts or more races?
Well, I really do enjoy the large stunts. I like to see how far we can push鈥擨 don鈥檛 really want to say the sport鈥攂ut how far we can push ourselves. And this just happens to be one way that I can push myself, to see what I鈥檓 capable of. How accurate can I be? How long can I be accurate?

As far as a race is concerned, I see the importance of competition in sports. I understand that is how sports grow. I understand that is how people become professional athletes. I understand that is important for the sport to have a competition. I鈥檓 not into that competing, but I understand why other people are and why it鈥檚 beneficial and helpful for them.

I also see the amount of energy and effort it takes to be competitive, to be .10 seconds faster than the other guy means you鈥檝e done a few hundred more jumps than he did that season. I already know I鈥檓 not going to win the World Wingsuit League race. It鈥檚 the guys that are out there jumping non-stop, everyday, 11 jumps a day. It鈥檚 crazyiness what they鈥檙e doing. I鈥檓 much more interested in the proximity megastunts.

So can you describe for me the feeling you get after a megastunt? Take the jump at Tianmen Cave or what you might feel after you鈥檝e done 鈥淭he Flying Dragon鈥?

I can鈥檛 tell you what I will feel after this one, because it鈥檚 always different. And these feelings are a little bit complicated. You have all these dreams. It takes you months, and in some cases years, of practice. When you finally get to the place and succeed in turning one of your dreams into a reality, the feeling is one of pure joy. It makes you feel like you can do anything. It鈥檚 very powerful. It gives my life meaning.

This interview was edited from a longer conversation.

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