In 1990, Bruce Poon Tip founded Gap 国产吃瓜黑料s in Toronto with two credit cards and a dream to 鈥渂ridge the gap between backpacking and mainstream travel.鈥 Twenty-one years later, with an annual $150 million in revenue, Gap is the largest adventure-travel company in the world, operating in more than 100 countries, taking 100,000 customers on the road each year, and boasting the highest repeat-customer rates in the business. During the recent recession, Poon Tip, 44, managed to grow his company 42 percent鈥攁 fact that has many struggling competitors scratching their heads.
KEYES:鈥圷ou鈥檙e selling the idea of adventure, but isn鈥檛 adventure the opposite of group travel?
POON鈥圱IP: There鈥檚 an element of security that comes with traveling in a group, but I don鈥檛 think adventure travel has anything to do with the number of people you鈥檙e traveling with.
Even if the itinerary is planned out for you?
I guess it鈥檚 how you define adventure. I think 90 percent of our trips are adventurous by destination, meaning that being in Mongolia is adventurous whether you鈥檙e with a group, by yourself, or with a conference. 国产吃瓜黑料 is such a commodified word these days. I was out swimming the other day and there was an 鈥渁dventure pool鈥 for kids. I looked at it and thought, Well, how are they promoting it as adventure? It had special toys and things for children. For a kid, that was adventurous, because they鈥檙e swimming in a different pool away from parents.
You built the brand on controlling the customer experience but now guide more than 100,000 travelers a year. How big is too big for you?
I think we鈥檙e many years away from having that kind of problem. Right now we鈥檙e still a niche company, we鈥檙e still a niche market.
Still, 100,000 is a lot of people.
Seriously, think about this. A 鈥渟un travel鈥 company here in Toronto that might take people down to Jamaica could carry 600,000 passengers in a year, and they wouldn鈥檛 even be the largest in Canada. We still don鈥檛 register in the mainstream tourism numbers of a tourist board when you look at China or Thailand or some of the other big destinations.
What do you think of the voluntourism trend? Those kinds of trips seem to be booming.
Voluntourism is a bit like a Wild West shoot-鈥檈m-up right now. There are a lot of bad companies doing a terrible job. It takes work to manage volunteers, and it has given a bad rep to the volun颅tour concept. To coordi颅nate a team of people who want to paint a school or build a well鈥攖he management involved in unskilled labor is massive. 颅Everyone who arrives has a different idea of how much they want to do. They have good intentions when they sign up: 鈥淲e鈥檙e going to build stoves or wells in Cambodia.鈥 But when you get there, are you 颅really prepared to get up at four in the morning and work ten-hour days? No, actually. With the change in the world right now, people have a need to give, and that鈥檚 a great thing, but that doesn鈥檛 necessarily mean they want to bust their asses for two weeks.
Yet you鈥檙e known for your role as a pioneer in this trend.
We鈥檝e stayed in our comfort zone, which is having short elements of volunteering within a holiday program. We were the first company that said, ultimately, the motivation of the customer is the holiday. With our trips now, we鈥檙e planning a lot of our groups around what we call random acts of Gapness, where groups spontaneously do something. Just yesterday a group went out and bought rice for a village in Guatemala. But our groups decide and we facilitate. That鈥檚 the element of giving that makes people feel good鈥攖hey鈥檝e actually had an impact, and it鈥檚 not necessarily overengineered.
What other travel trends are you seeing?
People today are so connected鈥攚ired up with phones and laptops and social media鈥攕o they鈥檙e more into remote spaces where they can be disconnected [while on vacation]. Five years ago, people liked the hustle and bustle of markets: they liked Egypt, Moroccan shopping markets. Now we鈥檙e seeing people wanting to go to Tibet and more remote areas to disconnect.
Are you also seeing the opposite of that? Travelers constantly tweeting about their trips?
Oh yeah. People used to book a trip with us and they鈥檇 shut off and have a vacation, right? But there鈥檚 a group of people now who come very wired up. When they arrive in any town, they whip out their GPS. We constantly hear from people who say, 鈥淲e went here, but I read about this, and maybe this would have been better.鈥 You decide to go on a rickshaw trip in Hanoi, but someone says, 鈥淚 heard you can do it by Segway. I just found an app for Hanoi Segway tours.鈥
You were also an early adopter on Twitter. How has it changed your relationship with your customers?
Twitter for us is far more of an internal tool. We have more than 1,000 employees on Twitter around the world, and we all link to each other and communicate with each other through that. It鈥檚 part of how we remain connected, because we want our people to feel that they鈥檙e part of a community. I just got a live photo of one of my managers eating in Italy. He鈥檚 in Sicily, he鈥檚 having a typical Italian lunch. In response, someone e-mailed a shot of a greasy burger in New York.
Isn鈥檛 it one of the unspoken rules of Twitter not to share what you had for lunch?
You鈥檇 better tell that to my people.